Now for years I've been hearing any mug can win with Skaven (Rory Maximus), Best Book Ever (Dr Marmalade), Skaven are so overpowered (gas monkey), broken! (Kiwihammer) and Waa Waa Waa (jossy). Well here's your chance!
It would be so easy for me to take 1000 points of Daemons of Chaos but I'd like to at least look at Skaven.
Write me a 1000 point list. Only proviso - no Stormfiends (Thanquol released too late).
I'll even come up with a suitable prize for the winner. Post in Comments section
Edit:
Jacks army is the ever friendly
Master, Dark Pegasus, Heavy Armor, Lance, Sea Dragon Cloak, Shield, Cloak of Twilight
Master, Dark Pegasus, Heavy Armor, Lance, Sea Dragon Cloak, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation
Master, Battle Standard Bearer, Dark Steed, Halberd, Heavy Armor, Sea Dragon Cloak, Shield, Dragonbane Gem
6 Dark Riders, Musician, Standard bearer, Repeater Crossbows,Shield
5 Dark Riders, Musician, Repeater Crossbows, Shield
5 Doomfire Warlocks (125pts)
5 Doomfire Warlocks (125pts)
Master would be Overlord in Doubles
50% lords/heroes?
ReplyDeleteYep
DeleteNight runner core, jezzails and a vermin lord
ReplyDeletePretty much explains Stonefall Massive
DeleteI couldn't see how to do fighty-hitty at that points level, because 250 points isn't much in your rare slot. So it looks like shooty-magic instead;
ReplyDeleteGrey Seer
BSB with Storm Banner
Level 1 Warlock with Condenser or Scroll
Naked Engineer
42 slaves with musician
40 slaves with musician
40 slaves with musician
6 Gutter runners with compulsory poison slings
Warp Lightning Cannon the first
Warp Lightning Cannon the second
Game plan is pretty self-evident; let the opponent wade through 80+ wounds of slaves, while shooting and magicking him off. GRs to come on behind or on the flank if needed.
In the pairs game at least, if Jack is rocking Dark Elves, he can provide some of the combat punch with his Peg/Steed Masters.
How did that feel? Invigorating?
DeleteI don't feel as dirty as I thought I might, put it that way.
DeleteCredit where it's due though, this is a slimmed down version of Alan Hughes' list from Vermintide last year, which beasted me (and everyone else).
Welcome to the Dark Side
DeleteAlan
Maybe I should take Skaven to a tournament. How hard can they be, they play like Dwarves anyway, just with magic.
DeleteAnd even when I lose I win, with mounds of dead rats to scoop up.
I'll let you play my Dwarves. No, it's OK, you don't need to thank me.
My first take was:
ReplyDeleteWarlord - Charmed Shield, Opal amulet (110)
Chieftain - BSB Std of Discipline (85)
Engineer - Level 2, Condenser, Doomrocket (150)
Engineer - Level 1, Scroll, Ruby Ring (115)
Engineer (15)
Engineer (15)
2x 40 Slaves - Champ/Muso (172)
36 Slaves - Champ/Muso (78)
5 Gutter Runners - slings/poison (90)
WLC (90)
WLC (90)
Puts me 5 points over. Suspect I need to drop an Engineer, the Amulet or the Scroll
ReplyDeleteI have always found, at least at home, that the Abom is an absolute handful at 1000 points.
Just sayin...
You know that they won't scale as well as the DoC..
ReplyDeleteWarlord - folding fortress
ReplyDeleteBsb - discipline
42 slaves muso
40 slaves muso
40 slaves muso
15 Jezzails
WLC
WLC
You're welcome.
Pete's skaven Filth (Skaven)
ReplyDeleteLords
Warlord (190)
M5·WS6·BS4·S4·T4·W3·I7·A4·Ld7
The Fellblade; hand weapon; heavy armour
Infantry (Character); Scurry Away!; Strength in Numbers; Verminous Valour
Heroes
Chieftain (70)
M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T4·W2·I6·A3·Ld6
hand weapon; heavy armour; Battle Standard Bearer
Infantry (Character); Scurry Away!; Strength in Numbers; Verminous Valour
Warlock Engineer (95)
M5·WS3·BS3·S3·T3·W2·I4·A1·Ld5
Doomrocket; Level 1 Wizard; Skaven Spells of Ruin; hand weapon
Infantry (Character); Scurry Away!; Strength in Numbers; Verminous Valour
Warlock Engineer (90)
M5·WS3·BS3·S3·T3·W2·I4·A1·Ld5
Dispel Scroll; Level 1 Wizard; Skaven Spells of Ruin; hand weapon
Infantry (Character); Scurry Away!; Strength in Numbers; Verminous Valour
Warlock Engineer (15)
M5·WS3·BS3·S3·T3·W2·I4·A1·Ld5
hand weapon
Infantry (Character); Scurry Away!; Strength in Numbers; Verminous Valour
Core
30 Stormvermin (250)
M5·WS4·BS3·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld5
hand weapon; halberd; heavy armour; musician; standard bearer (Standard of Discipline)
Infantry; Scurry Away!; Strength in Numbers
• Fangleader
M5·WS4·BS3·S3·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld5
5 Giant Rats (23)
M6·WS3·BS1·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld3
sharp teeth/claws
Infantry; Scurry Away!; Mixed Unit; Rat Pack; Wave of Rats; War Beasts
+ 1 Packmaster
M6·WS3·BS3·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
light armour; hand weapon; whip
Scurry Away!; Mixed Unit; Running with the Pack
5 Giant Rats (23)
M6·WS3·BS1·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld3
sharp teeth/claws
Infantry; Scurry Away!; Mixed Unit; Rat Pack; Wave of Rats; War Beasts
+ 1 Packmaster
M6·WS3·BS3·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
light armour; hand weapon; whip
Scurry Away!; Mixed Unit; Running with the Pack
Rare
Warp Lightning Cannon (90)
M–·WS–·BS–·S–·T6·W4·I–·A–·Ld–
hand weapon
War Machine
• Engineer and 2 Crew
M5·WS3·BS3·S3·T3·W1·I3·A1·Ld7
Doomwheel (150)
M3D6·WS–·BS–·S6·T6·W5·I–·A*·Ld–
hand weapon
Chariot; Armour Save (4+); Grinding Down the Foe; Immune to Psychology; Impact Hits (D6+1); Large Target; Rolling Doom; Terror; Zzzzap!
• Warlock and Rats
M–·WS3·BS3·S2·T–·W–·I4·A2D6·Ld7
Grey seer 4++
ReplyDeleteChieftain bsb with storm banner and shield
30 slaves with Mus and champ (bunker)
45 slaves with Mus
45 slaves with Mus
6 gutter runners poison and slings
HPA.
Bang on 1000points, storm banner to keep the cannons of the hpa until the GR's can get in there to kill them.
Will struggle vs multi wound army's.
Hi Pete,
ReplyDeleteMy takeaway from Adepticon is that:
* Some of the game VPs will be from capturing terrain, which can only be achieved by units with banners. Don't forget to include at least 2 unit banners in your list.
* Most armies you will face will have a minimum number of large units, rather than MSU. MSU will work well as long as you don't bleed points and
* It will be win loss draw, so you need to win by 100+pts. Giving up points on diverters will only work if you can get it back by destroying one of their likely 3 blocks.
Monty
Thanks to all that proposed lists. It help me consolidate my thoughts.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe any were superior to the one I posted and on that basis I've decided to take Daemons instead.
Of the lists put up the best two were Tane and Sam. I'll sort something out.